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约翰·大卫森:我们要讨论的是纪念性的雕塑及其建造者的话题。在休斯顿似乎是艺术家们承担了这一任务。那么艺术家们能仅依靠自己的权利造纪念物吗? 米歇尔·盖尔拜斯:在休斯顿,他们可以如此。这不是一个权利的问题,是他们打算承担这一任务。作为艺术家,他们独立地创作,从城市和公共生活等方面做了一种类似协调员的工作;但也有一些象“杰夫·麦可思高的香蕉秀”那样较大尺度的作品,艺术家在这时不认为自己是艺术家。这是些古怪的思想家,从自身的角度出发,创作出一些对人们来说象征性的、纪念性的且有意义的东西。我们缺乏区域性或其它有规划的控制。
John Davidsen: We’re going to talk about the monumental sculpture and the builder’s topic. It seems that the artists in Houston took on this task. Can artists rely solely on their rights to make monuments? Michelle Gelbés: In Houston, they can. This is not a matter of rights, they intend to undertake this task. As an artist, they worked independently to create a similar coordinator for urban and public life, but there were also some larger works like the "banana show by Jeff? Michael? At this moment I do not consider myself an artist. These weird thinkers, from their own point of view, create something that is symbolic, memorable and meaningful to people. We lack regional or other planned controls.