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让-弗朗索瓦·杜瓦尔(以下简称杜瓦尔):怎么开始做这个访谈?你说过,我们的本能就是被谈话侵蚀的。埃米尔·齐奥朗(以下简称齐奥朗):当我们说话,就像我们写作,我们什么也解决不了。除非深入内部。
Jean-François Duval (Duval): How did you start this interview? You said that our instincts were eroded by talk. Emile Choleng: When we speak, just as we write, we can not solve anything. Unless in-depth.