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在本次对谈中,三位学者针对当今互联网时代及存量更新背景下中国城市更新中存在的现象和问题进行了深入探讨.首先,三位学者对影响城市空间品质的要素进行了剖析,强调城市更新实践应注重城市空间的社会性、文化性、艺术性、历史性及生态性,并指出了未来城市更新的研究与实践重点,尤其强调了审美启智的重要性.随后,三位学者认为,在“眼球经济”的影响下,时下出现的空间改造“网红化”、城市特色“符号化”等现象可能会引发新一轮的城市同化,以致多元化特色逐渐消失;但城市规划师与设计师也可以对这些网络传播渠道和力量进行正向利用,以实现空间特色保护,甚或引导产生新的城市空间发展范式.此外,他们一致认为,在城市更新过程中民众应享有更大的话语权,这不仅要依靠“共同缔造”的规划模式,更需要设计师承担起深入研究与科普启蒙的重任.最后,三位学者结合具体案例,阐述了城市历史地段改造所面临的诸多挑战,例如城市治理方法落后、城市开发制度存在缺陷、经济发展放缓导致资金受限等,并同时呼吁设计师从中发掘机遇,在满足居民日常生活需求、完善城市治理体系、优化城市更新机制、推动地方经济增长等核心话题层面上持续进行积极探索与创新.“,”In this interview, three scholars discussed the problems in China's urban renewal practice in the Internet Era and the context of inventory development. They first reviewed the factors that impact the characteristics and identity of urban space, and pointed out that urban renewals should not neglect the social, cultural, artistic, historical, and ecological qualities of space. They then underscored the aesthetic education will be future research and practice interest in the field of urban renewal. They noted that, under the impact of “attention economy” and “online influence,” urban spatial construction across Chinese cities would be homogenized, compromising the diversity of spatial characteristics. Nonetheless, urban planners and designers can leverage the online platforms as communication channels and resources for the protection of spatial characteristics and identities, and to foster new urban development paradigms. In addition, the scholars believed that the public should have a greater discourse power in urban renewals, which requires the the promotion of Community Co-building Initiative, and designers' efforts in promoting related research and education programs. In the end, they discussed the challenges faced by the protection of historical sites, including the outdated urban governance methods, flawed urban development institution, and the lack of funds due to the slowdown of economic growth. They also encouraged designers to respond to these challenges with long-term, proactive, and innovative perspectives, truly meeting citizens' daily needs, improving urban governance methods, optimizing urban renewal mechanisms, and impelling the growth of local economy.